On Wednesday, November 6, 2019 9:06:33 PM MST Kevin Kofler wrote: > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > Symbiotic is, I think, the best way to describe the Red Hat/Fedora > > relationship. > > > Well, a symbiosis has to go both ways. In this case, I unfortunately get the > feeling that this feature was implemented to comply with RHEL's needs and > RHEL's needs only (enterprise server use cases where everything is > containerized, virtualized, or even physically separated, so dependency > version conflicts between unrelated applications do not matter) and forced > upon Fedora ignoring our needs and our objections. So I would rather > describe the relationship as "parasitic" rather than "symbiotic", sorry. > Kevin Kofler I don't believe that's as much the case as the Red Hat folks *thought* that this would be useful for enterprise environments, and for some it may be. However, for any industry that is required to perform updates on a routine basis, or anything installed on an airgapped network, it makes it so much worse. For the most part, enterprise installs are done on dedicated hardware or dedicated VMs on hyperconverged infrastructure, NOT containers. It's possible that this is Red Hat's attempt to get in on that market? It is clear, at this point, that this is something that is only designed to benefit Red Hat, and not the Fedora community. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx