On Thu, 2019-11-07 at 05:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Symbiotic is, I think, the best way to describe the Red Hat/Fedora > > relationship. > > Well, a symbiosis has to go both ways. In this case, I unfortunately get the > feeling that this feature was implemented to comply with RHEL's needs and > RHEL's needs only (enterprise server use cases where everything is > containerized, virtualized, or even physically separated, so dependency > version conflicts between unrelated applications do not matter) and forced > upon Fedora ignoring our needs and our objections. So I would rather > describe the relationship as "parasitic" rather than "symbiotic", sorry. It's funny cause there's a person in the LWN Fedora 31 release complaining about the half-baked Modularity that Fedora invented for its desktop use cases being forced on EL. :P https://lwn.net/Articles/803539/ In reality the truth is, as always, more messy and complicated than any neat theory. As you know we've been kicking this stuff around in Fedora for years, all the way back to Rings and before...and in part Modularity grew out of that process. But it's *also* true that at some point some folks within RH got very interested in its potential usefulness for certain RHEL use cases, and were very keen to get it into RHEL 8 in a form that's useful for those purposes, and both those forces *together* led to the flurry of work and strong desire to get bits of Modularity landed in recent Fedoras. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
