On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 9:33 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 03:05:43PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > Realistically, I believe that default streams themselves are something we > > should avoid, if the cost is low, and it is. There are many users, > > probably the vast majority of users, that don't use Modularity. It's great > > to have the option available, but to force it upon them is really > > unfortunate. > > I don't think characterizing this as "forced upon users" is a good framing. > It's unnecessarily hostile. I agree that the language is a tad aggressive, but still: > Users who happen to get packages which are in a > default stream shouldn't experience any practical difference from having a > non-modular package. And yet, the differences *are undeniably there*, and users are expected to fix issues this causes on their systems down the road themselves, even if they didn't consciously "opted in" to anything. I'd not characterize this as "forcing something upon users", but it's still getting in through the back door while they're possibly not looking. (And that's why the first thing I do for all my new fedora installs is to disable modular repos, just so no modules get installed "accidentally".) Fabio > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
