On 10/17/19 2:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2019-10-17 at 09:32 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: >> On Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:59:19 AM MST Alexander Bokovoy wrote: >>> The one thing we are using default modular stream in RHEL 8 for is to be >>> able to provide access to packages in kickstart that were moved to >>> modules in RHEL 8. An example is idm:client stream which is a default >>> module stream in RHEL 8 exactly for this reason, to be able to install >>> ipa-client package and enroll a system into IPA from a kickstart file. >>> >>> We don't package FreeIPA in modules in Fedora yet but this is one of >>> real examples how default module streams are helpful to maintain >>> coherent user experience for existing users of kickstart files. >>> >>> -- >>> / Alexander Bokovoy >>> Sr. Principal Software Engineer >>> Security / Identity Management Engineering >>> Red Hat Limited, Finland >> >> You could install the ipa-client package and enroll a system into IPA from a >> kickstart in RHEL 7 too.. Without modules. That's what I've deployed for the >> environments I support, for example. Using a module is not required there. > > That wasn't the point, though - the point was the answer the question > "why do we need *default* module streams?" > > The logic is this: FreeIPA maintainers wanted FreeIPA to be a module in > RHEL, to take advantage of the added flexibility around lifecycles and > version bumps (basically so each RHEL release isn't tied to one version > of FreeIPA forever). But if it's modularized and there's no concept of > 'default stream modules', this is a thing that breaks: you can't > install it from a kickstart. So, *given that* we wanted to modularize > FreeIPA in RHEL *and* we also want to still make it deployable via > kickstart, that creates a requirement for default stream modules or > something a lot like it. This doesn't seem quite true. You couldn't install it with the same kickstart you used for EL7, but you could use the new module command or syntax in kickstart: module --name=NAME [--stream=STREAM] and/or %packages @module:stream/profile -- Orion Poplawski Manager of NWRA Technical Systems 720-772-5637 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion@xxxxxxxx Boulder, CO 80301 https://www.nwra.com/
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