Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

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On to, 17 loka 2019, Orion Poplawski wrote:
You could install the ipa-client package and enroll a system into IPA from a
kickstart in RHEL 7 too.. Without modules. That's what I've deployed for the
environments I support, for example. Using a module is not required there.

That wasn't the point, though - the point was the answer the question
"why do we need *default* module streams?"

The logic is this: FreeIPA maintainers wanted FreeIPA to be a module in
RHEL, to take advantage of the added flexibility around lifecycles and
version bumps (basically so each RHEL release isn't tied to one version
of FreeIPA forever). But if it's modularized and there's no concept of
'default stream modules', this is a thing that breaks: you can't
install it from a kickstart. So, *given that* we wanted to modularize
FreeIPA in RHEL *and* we also want to still make it deployable via
kickstart, that creates a requirement for default stream modules or
something a lot like it.

This doesn't seem quite true.  You couldn't install it with the same kickstart
you used for EL7, but you could use the new module command or syntax in kickstart:

module --name=NAME [--stream=STREAM]
Actually, you could install client packages with the same kickstart file
as for RHEL 7, that was one of uses for default profiles.

Server package installation from kickstart file is less of a worry
because we are running a different deployment process since switching to
domain level 1 and that implies you have to do client installation
first.

And at the time when all this was designed, kickstart had no support for
modularized installation. It has it now, of course.

--
/ Alexander Bokovoy
Sr. Principal Software Engineer
Security / Identity Management Engineering
Red Hat Limited, Finland
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