Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

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On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:17 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:38:39AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > So bringing yourselves up now as "the people who can dig us out of this
> > situation" feels to me feels like intentionally making a patient sick so you
> > can "cure" them.
>
> I can understand with the frustration you seem to have, but I think this section
> is un-called for and not worth being sent to the devel list.
>
> Stephen is working on modularity either because he has been tasked to or because
> he genuinely believe on the idea and goals,

It's both. I genuinely believe that when we get this right, it will be
a huge win for Fedora, RHEL and the rest of our expanded ecosystem.
The fact that Red Hat has seen fit to pay me to work on it is icing on
that cake.

> either way we want him involved in
> these discussions, otherwise any feedback anyone may have will never reached the
> right person.
> As the project evolve some of the earlier assumptions turned to be correct and
> some turned to be wrong. I remember you raising some concerns early on, and
> there could be reasons for which they were not taken into account then.

I've been up-front about this: we were overconfident about some parts
of this and that has bitten us. I'm not denying the issues we face
today, but I *am* trying to make sure we make the right decisions for
the project long-term and not just the knee-jerk expedient ones.

> So let's not judge or try to re-write the past and focus on possible solutions
> as the rest of your email was doing.
> I'm not saying that your solution is the better one or the one that will be
> implemented, but having Stephen on this thread is the proof that it will at
> least be evaluated and thought through.
>
> Thank you Stephen for your involvement in this discussion.
>

Thank you, Pierre. I appreciate the vote of confidence.
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