Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

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Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:36:15PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>>> As package maintainers we all make technical decisions which have
>>> significant impact on our users every day - whether that's in the
>>> choice of defaults, choice of build flags, or whatever.  Honestly
>>> delivering as modules-vs-non-modules is a completely trivial issue
>>> compared to most of the stuff I spend time on.  If "yum install X"
>>> still works most people just don't care about the RPM/dnf/repo
>>> mechanics behind that.
>> 
>> Except it works only half way. The installation works. Later,
>> dependencies are broken. Upgrades are broken. "yum remove X" does not
>> undo the action completely.
>> 
>> The main issue is: user just enabled a module without doing it
>> explicitly. The user needs to know how to handle modules in order to
>> recover.
>
> I never expect "yum remove X" to be the inverse of "yum install
> X". DNF's magical leaf tracking makes it a bit more so, but not
> exactly. So, I don't think we should make that a very high priority
> concern (although if we can improve it, so much the better).

I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation, especially for those
coming from APT land (Debian, Ubuntu) where `apt install foo` *is* the
inverse operation of `apt remove foo`.

Thanks,
--Robbie

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