On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:24 AM John M. Harris Jr. <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Monday, September 9, 2019 10:29:23 AM MST Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 14:52:07 -0000, > > vvs vvs <vvs009@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > >May be there are more interested people that we know, but they are not > > >reading that list. There will just be just every man for himself and > > >Fedora has failed to recognize that. > > > >This requires time and effort too. Nobody will appear just by a miracle. I > > >recognize that there is much less people interested in this architecture > > >but it's much more than zero. > > > > I'm probably one of the few people still running Fedora on a machine that > > uses i686, that can't use x86_64. The machine is around 15 years old and is > > costly to get replacement parts for and I'm running out of spares. I was > > supposed to replace the machine last month, but needed another month to > > save up enough to buy the rest of the replacement. I've actually work with > > upstream to get kernel bugs fixed for this machine. > > > > Unfortunately I run rawhide and things got shut down a little sooner > > than I hoped, so I'm not getting updates right now and don't want to go > > back to f30 with the short horizon for retirement (though I did grab an > > f30 kernel). > > > > I don't think you are going to find many people who both run Fedora and > > have to use i686. > > > > There is a cost to keeping things running on i686 and it doesn't look like > > it is worth paying right now. And things are looking to get worse rather > > than better. > > > > You have options. You can switch to another distro that will support i686 > > for a while yet. Use f30 until it's EOL (or beyond if the machines are > > isolated). Or maintain your own distro. The tools for Fedora are open, > > so you could set up your own koji instance drawing from Fedora and applying > > your fixes where needed. Getting started will probably be hard, but once > > things are running you'll be OK until there is a key bug you can't get > > fixed. > > There are at least 4 people in this thread alone that are running Fedora on > x86 systems. Do these 4 people want to revive the x86 SIG and take on the work of dealing with 32-bit x86 bugs? Because they *do* exist and do cause problems... -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx