Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

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On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:24 AM John M. Harris Jr.
<johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Monday, September 9, 2019 10:29:23 AM MST Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 14:52:07 -0000,
> >   vvs vvs <vvs009@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >May be there are more interested people that we know, but they are not
> > >reading that list. There will just be just every man for himself and
> > >Fedora has failed to recognize that.
>
> > >This requires time and effort too. Nobody will appear just by a miracle. I
> > >recognize that there is much less people interested in this architecture
> > >but it's much more than zero.
> >
> > I'm probably one of the few people still running Fedora on a machine that
> > uses i686, that can't use x86_64. The machine is around 15 years old and is
> >  costly to get replacement parts for and I'm running out of spares. I was
> > supposed to replace the machine last month, but needed another month to
> > save up enough to buy the rest of the replacement. I've actually work with
> > upstream to get kernel bugs fixed for this machine.
> >
> > Unfortunately I run rawhide and things got shut down a little sooner
> > than I hoped, so I'm not getting updates right now and don't want to go
> > back to f30 with the short horizon for retirement (though I did grab an
> > f30 kernel).
> >
> > I don't think you are going to find many people who both run Fedora and
> > have to use i686.
> >
> > There is a cost to keeping things running on i686 and it doesn't look like
> > it is worth paying right now. And things are looking to get worse rather
> > than better.
> >
> > You have options. You can switch to another distro that will support i686
> > for a while yet. Use f30 until it's EOL (or beyond if the machines are
> > isolated). Or maintain your own distro. The tools for Fedora are open,
> > so you could set up your own koji instance drawing from Fedora and applying
> >  your fixes where needed. Getting started will probably be hard, but once
> > things are running you'll be OK until there is a key bug you can't get
> > fixed.
>
> There are at least 4 people in this thread alone that are running Fedora on
> x86 systems.

Do these 4 people want to revive the x86 SIG and take on the work of
dealing with 32-bit x86 bugs? Because they *do* exist and do cause
problems...



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