On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 10:22:32AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Chris Murphy wrote: > > 2400 is totally confusing, I'm only finding it used in military > > contexts and even there it seems to be vernacular. I'd rather be > > surprised if military police use it. > > Then just write 23:59 instead. +1. (I asked a few people what 24:00 means to them, and after getting a few strange looks and answers, I'm convinced that 23:59 is much better. (It's only English-speaking people who are confused. I think this stems from US imperial culture, where 12:00 PM is noon, and 12:00 AM is midnight. It is labelling the boundary of a range with a value from the neighbouring range, which is ... bleh. But the confusion is unlikely to go away, so let's just avoid this.)) I also think 23:59 UTC (i.e. ~midnight UTC) is the best choice of the actual time. We generally specify almost all times in UTC in Fedora, and using a different timezone for this important date would be confusing. Contributors are primarily located in Europe and US, so midnight UTC is 2 AM, 8 PM, or 5 PM, which is something like "close of the business day", and I think it's nice the start the freeze at that time. Zbyszek > > My suggestion would be, without respect to preference, 0015 UTC, 0030 > > UTC, or 0100 UTC. And that's only because it acts like a kind of grace > > period for anyone used to 0000 UTC, not paying attention to this > > thread, and maybe misses the next announcement. > > A one-hour (or less) "grace period" in the middle of the night is entirely > useless. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx