On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 7:25 AM Roberto Ragusa <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 5/6/19 1:40 PM, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > > We found this bug before releasing, but it is not a release blocking bug (the upgrade criteria just cover clean n and n-1 upgrading to n+1 and this bug just happens whith continously upgraded systems since fc21 or lower) > > Wait a moment, is n and n-1 defined to "installed from scratch n and n-1?". Correct. "For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from a fully updated, clean default installation of each of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed." https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_30_Beta_Release_Criteria#Upgrade_requirements > Is this a precedent that n-installed is different than n-through-upgrades? It is completely impractical for QA to, every cycle, do a clean install of each version of Fedora, and upgrade them in sequence to the current pre-release version, and if any of those get stuck somewhere, suggest it would be release blocking. It's totally untenable. And not least of which is the BIOS bootloader staleness issue, but file systems are inherently non-deterministic data blobs. The older they get, the more non-deterministic they become, and the more likely problems are edge cases that require special handling. The older it is, the less stable it is, and the more likely you'll run into problems no one else has. It's just the way they are. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx