On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 09:52 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > Le dimanche 05 mai 2019 à 16:14 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit : > > Right and that's the same with beta testing, which is how bugs like > > this can sometimes not even get found until after release. A lot of > > tests are done on pristine systems that are throw away. It's entirely > > understandable few people want to test Fedora pre-release on their > > rock solid 5+ year old Fedora system, but we actually stumbled on > > this > > in some sense by luck of alternate arch acting like a canary. > > That's not true, many boot problems are found quite early in the > process by rawhide users, but rawhide users feedback is not taken into > account by installer folks because they don't look at boot problems > before quite late in the cycle, when rawhide users have already moved > on manually, and the default solution is always to reinstall from > scratch. Actually we monitor all the bugs all the time, but's it's basically a firehose - if we get multiple bugreports with a similar problems or a bug with many "happened to me as well" comments it's much more likely it will get fixed than a serious looking but (from bugzilla queue PoV) one-off bug. That can indeed get lost in the overall noise caused by all the imaginable setups and installation methods people use, combined with stuff like hardware failures and driver issues. > > So problems are found, just not fixed > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx