Re: [Late] F30 System-Wide Change proposal: GCC9

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Jonathan Wakely wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 05:06:09PM +0000:
>> I think it would help having more people test things, and if there are
>> build failures would help package owners fix these - it's not always
>> obvious to fix a build failure by repeatedly submitting a new package to
>> build, and everyone doesn't have a rawhide install around.
> 
> That's what 'mock' is for.

Sure, I guess that was a bad argument; as I said I'm not maintaining
packages so I can't do that for the tools where I'd have liked to test
the new gcc.

> >It's probably just me being lazy, though; I'll figure something out if
> >there is no such plan :)
> 
> It's really easy to build it yourself:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/InstallingGCC
> 
> Installing binutils is also simple. Build binutils and install it
> first, then build GCC to use the same prefix as you installed binutils
> to, and the new GCC will automatically use the new GCC.

Sure, building a new toolchain is easy; that's one of the many
possibilities there are to test it.
One could also just use `dnf --installroot=/tmp/foo --releasever=30
isntall gcc` to pop a new chroot, or install rawhide in a VM, but all of
these solutions take disk space and aren't systematically used when
building stuff so it makes the testing a much more conscious action than
just install some rpm and start using it.
(yes, if I build a toolchain I could just add it to my PATH and it would
just work as well; as I said, I'm just lazy.)


Honestly, I also figured dropping the existing fc30 srpm for gcc
followed by libtools and friends in a fc29 copr would be even simpler
for everyone - copr really is a great tool to test new utility versions,
and most of the time it just works.

Turns out I wasn't correct here as for some reason gcc9 does build fine
but I can't get it to install in a chroot, feel free to try my attempt
if you can figure why:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/martinetd/gcc9/

I could upgrade libgcc/libgomp/libstdc++ (in a chroot without gcc) but
trying to install gcc itself yields:
 Problem: package gcc-9.0.1-0.1.fc29.x86_64 requires libgcc_s.so.1, but none of the providers can be installed
  - libgcc-8.2.1-6.fc29.i686 has inferior architecture
  - libgcc-8.2.1-2.fc29.i686 has inferior architecture
  - cannot install both libgcc-8.2.1-6.fc29.x86_64 and libgcc-9.0.1-0.1.fc29.x86_64
  - cannot install both libgcc-8.2.1-2.fc29.x86_64 and libgcc-9.0.1-0.1.fc29.x86_64
  - package gcc-9.0.1-0.1.fc29.x86_64 requires libgcc >= 9.0.1-0.1.fc29, but none of the providers can be installed
  - cannot install the best candidate for the job

while it really looks to me that it should be provided by the newer
libgcc?
# rpm -q --provides libgcc
libgcc = 9.0.1-0.1.fc29
libgcc(x86-64) = 9.0.1-0.1.fc29
libgcc_s.so.1()(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.3)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.3.1)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.4)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.4.2)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.4.4)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_4.0.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_4.2.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_4.3.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_4.7.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_4.8.0)(64bit)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_7.0.0)(64bit)

So, meh, I'll probably pick something else but I don't like not
understanding why something doesn't work.
-- 
Dominique
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