On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:42 PM Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Le jeudi 29 novembre 2018 à 10:56 -0500, Josh Boyer a écrit : > > > > Of the large number of packages that you maintain, how many of them > > are critical to freeze at a specific version for a given Fedora > > release? Possibly some, but I would think across the distribution it > > would not be a huge number. > > It's not so much that many packages need freezing, but quite a lot need > coordinated rebuilds (mini mass rebuilds). Once thing current cadencing > provides is "free" mass rebuilds (you just make sure to commit the key > packages before branching and releng will usually mass rebuild all the > other things that depend on those key parts for some other reason). > > Fix the tooling so those mini mass rebuilds are cheap to setup and are > not human packager intensive, and there's not reason the rebuild result > could not be pushed to every release. Or to a rolling release. Or > whatever. Yes, agreed. Fixing the tooling is what much of these threads are about ;) > We really need to evolve our tooling from "packages can be handled > independently in reviews, builds, and pushes, coordinated changes are > the exception" to "we manage sets of packages by default, single-package > changes are just set changes with set = 1" Modularity does that for a number of cases, but it isn't a silver bullet. Our package dependencies web is much too complex to make it feasible for everything to be in a module, at least right now. (We should really also revisit our package dependencies in general and try to minimize as much as we can for a variety of reasons, leveraging rich/weak deps. That's a different topic though.) josh _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
