On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:26 PM Brendan Conoboy <blc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:> > On 11/16/18 7:50 AM, Paul Frields wrote: > [snip] > > We should skip the F31 release cycle and leave F30 in place longer in > > order to focus on improving the tooling and testing changes. These > > tooling changes will improve the overall reliability of Fedora, and > > will decrease the manual effort and complexities involved in producing > > the distribution artifacts. Although we’ve done this before to make > > “editions” happen, the intent is to track this multi-team effort more > > actively so we can (1) use the time as well as possible, and (2) give > > the work maximum transparency. > > If there is going to be a pause F30 seems like a good place to do it: > New glibc, new compiler- and a full year for them to mature. It's a > nice basis for a stable platform. What would the update policy be for > this year- same as today? It seems like you're proposing this as a > one-time event to pay down technical debt, which is great, but would > you perhaps consider doing the same thing for F31, F32, etc? The > basic reasons for technical debt will continue- why not plan to > service the debt regularly? If we go ahead and skip the F31 release, I see this as a (perhaps necessary) desperation move - there is a small group of a dozen or so people who would be key to improving our release processes, but those people are always busy making releases. But for the next thousand or so Fedora developers, the release cycle is actually not a big deal - not something that takes much of their time - and it gives them a regular place to land feature work. And Fedora users appreciate a timely updated operating system (without having random rebases trickle in.) In other words, the "technical debt" we are trying to solve here is not project wide and doesn't justify slowing down the whole project permanently. - Owen _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
