On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 16:03, Ben Rosser <rosser.bjr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:55 PM Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > From what I have talked with in the past.. 3 years is their bare > > minimum and 7 is their what we really want. It usually takes the > > vendor about 3-6 months of work to make sure the OS works on their > > hardware without major problems and then they want people to buy > > support contracts for 3-5 years where the number of problems needed in > > year 3-5 are none. [This means that they want to have Fedora N for 3-6 > > months before their laptops ship with it. So you ship them a frozen > > preload before you release to public. They also want any shipped to > > 'last' for the warranty cycle because trying to deal with update > > questions when N eol's in the middle costs them a lot.] > > If 7 years is what manufacturers really want, then it sounds like Well they also want a Ferrari and all support to be done upstream for free. 7 is usually their counter to 13 months. You start going down there to find that what they really settle for will be 3-4 years as most people don't extend warranties that long. > CentOS is much better positioned to be get shipped on laptops than > Fedora. Instead of working on a new "Fedora LTS" for this usage case, > would time be better spent improving EPEL and CentOS for the > desktop/laptop use case? I'd always thought of CentOS/RHEL as "Fedora > LTS" anyway, to be honest. > > Ben Rosser > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx