On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 09:06:48PM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Am Do, den 24.02.2005 schrieb Josh Boyer um 20:53: > > > Most of the discusion has been about what should be the default. For "newbies" > > sendmail can be a pain to configure. It's documentation leaves something to be > > desired, and the default sendmail.cf file isn't all that helpful. > > Nobody is advised to edit sendmail.cf and submit.cf directly. Everybody > should always use the .mc files and use m4 to generate the .cf files > from that. Yes, sorry. I meant sendmail.mc. > Even a "newbie" can do simple setups this way. The makefile under > /etc/mail makes it simple to rebuild the .cf file or even a service > restart rebuilds the .cf if .mc files were changed. Yes, but with exim you don't need to run make. You just edit the config file and you're done. > More complex setup always require a deeper understanding of the whole > mail server (MTA side as well IMAP/POP3 side) topic. The basic Sendmail > setup shipped with Fedora Core runs out-of-the-box locally. The change > to open it for outside connections is a 1 line change. Well > understandable documented. Really? I disagree. I hardly know anything about mail servers, yet I exim allows me to run spam and virus checking by simply uncommenting one line. And unlike sendmail, I didn't have to explicitly enable outside connections. > A good understanding with running an MTA is needed because a > misconfigured MTA not only can influence communication faults with other > MTAs but even lead to lost mail. I'll agree that it's always a good idea to learn about things. But that doesn't mean that an MTA can't be configured to do more advanced feature out of the box. > > So with Sendmail by calling these kind of applications as a milter entry > in the sendmail.mc. Sure, but a user needs to know what a milter entry is right? And how to set it up to do what you need it to do, etc. I don't have a clue what a milter entry is. I'm not saying sendmail can't do equivalent (or even more) things. I don't claim to know a lot about MTAs, what makes them good, what doesn't, and why one is better than the other. I'm just saying that from a newbie perspective (mine), exim was easier for me to use. josh
