Hey On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:30 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2018-09-03 at 20:09 +0200, Andreas Tunek wrote: > > The thing is, if people do not test releases they will never be > > stable. And even if I don't know how to access my F29 installation > > from a chroot sometimes my testing is valuable to the project. Also, I > > think that my testing has shown that a lack of root account and boot > > menu has lead to a much worser user experience in certain cases. > > FWIW, I personally would like us to avoid such world-breaking bugs as > this and the grub2 UEFI bug from reaching Rawhide or Branched as much > as possible, and I'm frankly unhappy that both of those *did* a) happen > and b) reach Rawhide and Branched, in 2018 we really ought to be able > to avoid that. I think people ought to be able to run development > Fedora and still have at least a reasonable expectation that we won't > be so bad at making it that obvious disasters like this happen. More > subtle bugs, sure, but anything this obvious should not make it in. FWIW, the dbus changes were not intended for F29, but were backmerged due to miscommunication on our side. Which is unfortunate, because the bug only appears if you update the dbus package in steps (1.12.8-1 -> 1.12.8-2 -> 1.12.10-2) rather than in one jump (1.12.8-1 -> 1.12.10-2). Sorry for broken package! Thanks David _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx