Den mån 3 sep. 2018 kl 12:56 skrev Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx>: > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 09:13 Ron Yorston <rmy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Adam Williamson wrote: >> >On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 08:58 -0700, stan wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:33:39 +0200 >> >> Andreas Tunek <andreas.tunek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> > There is no root acoount on a default F29 installation. Also, you >> >> > can't see the boot menu and I haven't been able to trigger it. >> >> >> >> Whoa! I'm not sure what that buys, but I'll change that as soon as >> >> possible when I install it. That's crazy! Maybe someone wants to >> >> imitate a Mac or something. >> > >> >It's a Change that was properly announced and extensively discussed on >> >this list. >> >> Since some Fedora users may not read this list, I hope that these >> changes will be prominently mentioned in the release documentation. >> >> Preferably for F30 as well as F29 so that users who only update to every >> other release will also receive notification. >> >> Ron > > > Well, one might argue that users who really want to run pre-beta releases of fedora are also expected to follow the discussions and announcements here. > fedora 29 really isn't ready for end users yet (as witnessed by this thread) - it's not even in beta after all - so if you don't (or can't) keep up with the news and development discussions, you really shouldn't be running fedora 29 yet IMO. > > I know that doesn't help rescue the borked systems, but running alpha-quality code is bound to lead to problems, and users are expected to be able to deal with them - otherwise they should stick to stable releases. > > Fabio > The thing is, if people do not test releases they will never be stable. And even if I don't know how to access my F29 installation from a chroot sometimes my testing is valuable to the project. Also, I think that my testing has shown that a lack of root account and boot menu has lead to a much worser user experience in certain cases. /Andreas >> _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
