Re: Headsup: dbus 1.12.10-1.fc29 is missing systemd dbus.service file, breaking almost everything

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On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 09:13 Ron Yorston <rmy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
>On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 08:58 -0700, stan wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:33:39 +0200
>> Andreas Tunek <andreas.tunek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > There is no root acoount on a default F29 installation. Also, you
>> > can't see the boot menu and I haven't been able to trigger it.
>>
>> Whoa!  I'm not sure what that buys, but I'll change that as soon as
>> possible when I install it.  That's crazy!  Maybe someone wants to
>> imitate a Mac or something.
>
>It's a Change that was properly announced and extensively discussed on
>this list.

Since some Fedora users may not read this list, I hope that these
changes will be prominently mentioned in the release documentation.

Preferably for F30 as well as F29 so that users who only update to every
other release will also receive notification.

Ron

Well, one might argue that users who really want to run pre-beta releases of fedora are also expected to follow the discussions and announcements here.
fedora 29 really isn't ready for end users yet (as witnessed by this thread) - it's not even in beta after all - so if you don't (or can't) keep up with the news and development discussions, you really shouldn't be running fedora 29 yet IMO.

I know that doesn't help rescue the borked systems, but running alpha-quality code is bound to lead to problems, and users are expected to be able to deal with them - otherwise they should stick to stable releases.

Fabio

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