On 4 June 2018 at 14:29, Dave Love <loveshack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > You wrote: > >> I think generally the Fedora/RH-ecosystem answer is to use Ansible for >> configuration, rather than configuration packages. >> >> That's not sayin' there can't be another answer, but in general that's >> the route *I'd* take to solve this problem on my systems. > > I guess we disagree about what the problem is, but it's unfortunate if > Fedora/RH isn't interested in the sort of environment for which > config-package was developed. 1. Do not strip out who you are replying to. There are hundreds of people on this list and people come in at different times... and I am not sure who "You" was. 2. Saying that Fedora/RH isn't interested by 1-2 comments is like me walking into Debian lists getting 1 person saying "noone would ever use Ansible" and assuming they speak for all of Debian. 3. There are people who do system management by rpm as can be seen by various emails. Even Red Hat does so for the deployment of in the field laptops who aren't getting regular checkins for a puppet or ansible to work on. 4. System administration/configuration management is 99% "I have a solution I endure and I don't have time to re-engineer it." and 1% "Oh I think I want to write my own configuration management toolkit because I can't endure what I am doing now." You are going to get pushback from any site you are proposing this to until you show it is useful for them. So let us roll this discussion back a bit. There isn't an existing system to do this. Most sites I have worked with roll their own using different amounts of cron, config files, scripts in /usr/local/sbin and rpms with %post/%pre and lots of %triggers. The ones who do this would probably enjoy a tool which automated most of this work for them, but they are all expecting someone else to write it for them. And then because these solutions (even the Debian one) can go wrong badly.. they are hesitant to use some other one until they see it works. -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/B26CFSANPZKFFMS7IU6W7OWMNYAKA2K6/