On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:22 AM, Till Maas <opensource@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > My proposal was for the instructions to recommend pressing a certain key > but still accepting any key in grub, then there is no lie, since "Press > space to enter grub" is still true when other keys allow the same. I'm still not a fan because it's not accurate. But it isn't terrible and isn't a hill I'm gonna die on. >> >Also it would be awesome if it was still possible to easily >> > reboot to grub after the kernel took over, e.g. from the harddisk >> > password screen, GDM login screen and Gnome logout dialog. Then you can >> > just make it user-friendly and obvious. >> >> password screen is a plymouth feature request; from what I'm looking >> at gdm login and gnome logout dialog both have a restart option which >> gets me back to GRUB so I'm not following what different behavior >> you're proposing. > > My idea was to not have a short timeout when a user selects "Reboot to > Bootloader" (to be implemented) as restart option, so that user do not > have to fiddle with pressing the right key at the right time when they > already know I want to get to the grub menu. Also when they missed the > right time during boot, plymouth could recognise this, make sure the > grub menu will be shown without a short timeout in the next boot and > reboot. Agreed but there are more options possible to help the user avoid the mess that is keyboard shortcuts for firmware and bootloader: Reboot to bootloader Reboot to firmware setup Reboot to macOS/Windows (upon detection one of those exists) -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/6HJ4ZVVQY4QLPAAHQTP5C5H2TAUFDBCU/