On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > On 01-06-18 20:38, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 1:04 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> First of all I want to thank everyone for their input. >>> >>> I also want to make clear that the hide the menu + >>> not listening for a keypress at all (aka fastboot) is a >>> Fedora 30 thing, quoting myself: >>> >>> "For F29, single OS Fedora Workstation install we get: >>> >>> 1) grub menu hidden by default with a 1 second timeout to press ESC >>> or F8 to show it >> >> >> As discussed, this isn’t so great. Can we at least let users hold down >> a key rather than having to press it at the correct magic time? > > > Because detecting modifiers with UEFI is iffy and with > serial consoles is outright impossible. I think that, if we have a serial console, we should have a minimum 250ms delay or so such that, if I hold down a key, I get a grub menu. (Does UEFI buffer keystrokes? It might be sufficient to just check *once* for buffered keystrokes.) On systems where I have a serial console, I want to be able to rescue the system, full stop. On UEFI, we should at least try, I think. And checking once for buffered keystrokes would be really nice too. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/7M2UKNHYECMNPPD5IFCKFKXLYDPPL3XK/