Phil Muldoon wrote: > > I'm trying to avoid turning this into advocacy or philosophy of > languages. But having a free java solution in hand, that could be put in > Fedora, but we choose not to (and instead invite people to seek non open > java solutions elsewhere) just sends a conflicting message. The open > source java solution needs work. The open source Eclipse IDE needs work. > These are already well established and populated projects. There's a lot of space between "include it on the Fedora install CDs that absolutely everyone who uses Fedora must acquire" and invite people to use non-free solutions." For example, "put it on an optional Fedora Java CD." -- Jamie Zawinski jwz@xxxxxxx http://www.jwz.org/ jwz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.dnalounge.com/ http://jwz.livejournal.com/