Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

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Neal Gompa píše v Út 18. 07. 2017 v 16:03 -0400:
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Matthew Miller
> <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 09:41:30PM +0200, nicolas.mailhot@laposte.n
> > et wrote:
> > > Then I'm glad there is absolutely no plan to preempt flatpack
> > > technical assessment by shipping one or more GNOME apps as
> > > flatpack-only, leaving Fedora users for whom flatpack does not
> > > work
> > > yet behind, and bypassing distribution consensus processes.
> > 
> > Please tone this inflammatory rhetoric down. It's not helpful. When
> > you
> > said you wanted this part of the thread to close, I thought that's
> > what
> > you meant and took it seriously.
> > 
> > Here, I assume you're talking about no one having packaged GNOME
> > Recipies (apparently _written_ as a Flatpak proof of concept) in
> > traditional RPM form. But, we can't make *any* upstream author
> > package
> > their stuff in RPM for us.
> > 
> > But, if you want that as an RPM in Fedora, _no one is really
> > stopping
> > you_. Go for it!
> > 
> > If you're talking about something else here, then I missed it
> > completely and encourage you to be more straightforward and stick
> > to
> > the technical.
> > 
> 
> I think he's worried that applications might intentionally get left
> behind that someone would want.
> 
> Also, GNOME upstream doesn't do the packaging for Fedora GNOME
> anyway.
> That's the Workstation WG's job. Just like how the KDE SIG packages
> the Qt/KDE stack, the Workstation WG (aka GNOME SIG) does this for
> the
> GTK+/GNOME stack.

I don't think this is entirely true.

The mission statement of Workstation Working Group:
"The Fedora Workstation working group aims to create a reliable, user-
friendly and powerful operating system for laptops and PC hardware. The
system will primarily be aimed at providing a platform for development
of server side and client applications that is attractive to a range of
developers - from hobbyists and students to developers working in
corporate environments."

It's a group that focuses on building a desktop OS based on GNOME, yes,
that involves packaging of a sizable part of the GNOME stack, but that
doesn't mean that it's their job and obligation to package (any) GNOME
software.

Jiri

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