On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:45:27PM +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: > On 16.07.2017 14:10, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Debarshi Ray wrote: > >> How about reliable online updates of running applications as a > >> benefit? > > > > Upgrading RPM applications online just works. I do it all the time. The KDE > > tools do not even implement offline updates (and IMHO that's a good thing). > > The worst that can happen is that some recalcitrant applications (by far the > > minority) need to be restarted after updating (or if you upgraded the whole > > desktop, then your session may need to be restarted after updating). Until > > you do that, the current session may be "hosed" to some extent, but > > restarting will fix it. > > no, the worst case is this: > > https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/10/04/x-crash-during-fedora-update-when-system-has-hybrid-graphics-and-systemd-udev-is-in-update/ I had this kind of fun problem upgrading F25 -> F26. I was lazy and didn't want to reboot so I was just running dnf distro-sync in a gnome-terminal session. I've upgrade this way since F6 and mostly it just works, but forgot to nohup it. About 1/3 of the way through installing new packages, something causes gnome-terminal to die. I had to write a script to read the dnf planned transaction log and finish installing and erasing remaining packages, and manually run any %posttrans scripts. So yeah, even with latest Fedora things can & do go horribly wrong if you ignore the advice to not run upgrades from a live system. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx