It's probably no surprise if you've ever heard me talk that I really think hitting early May / late October is important for our release cadence. Those specific dates aren't magic, but they avoid some big public holidays, and the key thing is that if we're consistent with landmarks, it makes planning easier. I took a look at the planned F27 schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/27/Schedule and sketched out what the same time periods would look like with a May target for F28, and then repeated again for F29, making very drafty preliminary schedules: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/29/Schedule and, really, I think it looks very nice. There's a built-in week for both Beta and Final to slip if need be, and, realistically, if we end up going a week or two past the planned GA, we're still in decent shape in May and November. The key thing, though, is that this is predicated on "No More Alphas" actually working. That in turn has two big parts. First, there is gating from rel-eng and QA in progress here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoMoreAlpha (Note that this is compose/validation gating, not the CI stuff we're also talking about separately.) That's key in keeping the release basically stable. But there's another part: Unless we want to have very soft release criteria and ship stuff we know to be broken (or suspect but haven't completely checked out), we need changes after we branch (and especially after the beta is released) to follow the stable releases updates policy -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Stable_Releases. That way, we have a fighting chance of identifying blockers with enough time to get resources directed to fix them without indefinite delay. Hopefully, by the time we are at F28, Modularity will provide a way for us to offer faster streams for people who want them -- but let's also focus on stable releases. The ironic effect of this is that we can get new software to people *faster*, because we'll be able to more reliably hit the six-month ship dates, rather than taking eight or nine months. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx