On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:15:20PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Unless we want to have very soft release criteria and ship stuff we > know to be broken (or suspect but haven't completely checked out), we > need changes after we branch (and especially after the beta is > released) to follow the stable releases updates policy -- > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Stable_Releases. That > way, we have a fighting chance of identifying blockers with enough time > to get resources directed to fix them without indefinite delay. And, actually, having thought about this overnight :), I'd like to make this stronger. In the period between the Beta Release and the Final Freeze, updates are accepted through Bodhi, but *please*: 1. As above, please note that Stable Releases Updates Policy _applies at Beta_. This is *not* a policy change: see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Beta_to_Pre_Release 2. Weigh how important it is to get the update in for the release vs. a) waiting to be an update later or b) waiting for the next release entirely. Think: If this *were* a freeze, would I file for a Freeze Exception? If you have a new version of software you want to get to users early, consider making a Copr (or for Server now, a Module). 3. If you have a big thing you know will land during the Beta period, please consider filing a Change so it can be tracked — and note the timing in the Change details. 4. If you do make an update and push it to stable, please test any release criteria which might be impacted by your update and file Blocker bugs if necessary. We can't just leave this for QA. I'm sure the QA team will be happy to help, but you know your change better than they do and you're in a better position to fix any problems. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria You should be able to find a nightly compose at https://www.happyassassin.net/nightlies.html 5. If you work on a Spin or are in an Edition WG that has a release deliverable, please take note of incoming changes which might affect that deliverable and help keep the nightly test matrices up to date. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx