Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

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On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:31 AM, James Hogarth <james.hogarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>
> On 17 May 2017 8:24 pm, "Tom Hughes" <tom@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 17/05/17 20:15, Chris Adams wrote:
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>> Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher <arequipeno@xxxxxxxxx> said:
>>>
>>> Removing RPM dependencies on the net-tools package and deciding whether
>>> it should be installed by default are two separate (albeit related)
>>> discussions.
>>
>>
>> The subject of the thread here is "deprecated", which implies removing
>> the package, not just reducing dependencies.
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>
> Well normally deprecated refers to something which is left in place but
> which people are advised to move away from which would imply not removing
> it.
>
> I suspect it will be some time before all those packages are modified to not
> rely on it so any talk of removing it seems premature.

It's not just packages with explicitly published dependencies. It's a
lot of configuration tools with implicit dependencies, whose authors
didn't imagine at the time of authorship that basic utilities like
"/sbin/ifconfig". These tools may be entirely local and outside of
RPM's, or may never have bothered to declare what they thought was an
implicit provision as part of running on an RPM based Linux. For
example, I note on the older systems I have immediate access to that
ifconfig is used in the python "virtinst" and "uuid" modules.
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