On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 09:15:51AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: >> On 17 May 2017 at 08:46, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > Converting apps from nettools to iproute is often non-trivial piece >> > of work. As such isn't really something Fedora package maintainers >> > should look to undertake as the risk of introducing regressions is >> > non-negligible. Bug reports really need to go the corresponding >> > upstream communities to get anything done. >> > >> >> That's a sensible position and one I can respect. I do wonder how much >> is upstream and how much is a result of packaging though, that itself >> might be an interesting investigation. > > I think this might be something that rises to the level of a > Change ("Officially Deprecate net-tools in Fedora"), and while working > with upstreams is going to be necessary, I think having a Fedora > tracker could be useful, if you're interested in putting in that > effort. Yes, there was already an effort to do this 6 years ago [1] which got some of the way there. I don't think the package itself will go away any time soon but it would be good to not need it in the core distribution. For a while we actually managed to do that but it's crept back in over time. I think a focus on getting things like cloud-init, vpnc-script, pki-server and similar packages that ship in core deliverables would be a good start. >> At the very least it may be worth checking for upstream bugs, filing >> them where they don't exist, and then filing a bugzilla (even with a >> tracking bug perhaps? Is this something for FPC to discuss maybe?) >> ticket linked to the upstream. > > Probably FESCo rather than FPC, unless we're going to ban depending on > net-tools or something like that. Yes, it would definitely be FESCo over FPC IMO [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=687920 _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx