Re: a diversion into EPEL [was Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like]

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Igor Gnatenko
<i.gnatenko.brain@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Dec 9, 2016 5:18 PM, "Matthew Miller" <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 11:07:32AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
>> > Anyways, in the big picture, while I don't speak for everyone on
>> > the Project Atomic side, I personally point users at CentOS first,
>> > unless I have some reason to think they want Fedora. Something like
>> > 80% of Fedora usage hitting the mirrors was desktop systems, right?
>> > I don't expect that to change personally.
>> Although..except for EPEL.  And how EPEL works should obviously be
>> part of this. Things would feel clearer if EPEL lived in CentOS now
>> perhaps.
>
> Right; in mirror traffic, EPEL is to Fedora Workstation as Workstation
> is to Server. :)
>
> EPEL packages *are* Fedora packages, though — moving the project to
> CentOS isn't completely crazy, but would require a lot more integration
> and cooperation between the projects.
>
> That's something I'd like to see anyway. I think there are a lot of
> opportunities for this with containers and modularity — if you can just
> run Fedora containers on CentOS or RHEL *directly*, why bother
> rebuilding them? For a lot of the software that's in EPEL, that's
> completely sufficient. For other software, where users would like the
> version to match more closely the long lifecycle, maybe there could be
> a hand-off from Fedora version to CentOS version.
>
> Don't know how modularity is related here. It's just about building distro.
> Containers, yeah, but please don't kill Fedora. I don't want to run
> container for each software I use. RHEL and CentOS people can struggle, but
> don't do this with Fedora users.

Please stop with hyperbole.  Nobody is "killing" Fedora.

josh
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