On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 08:44:26 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 13:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > The apparently random flow of poorly tested "rushed out" updates > > <citation needed> Nah, not needed at all. Basically, one can update a desktop workstation to death, if applying updates too often or not at the right time. Then you suffer from updates causing regression, if not searching for an even newer update in the updates-testing repo, where pulling out individual packages isn't safe. One faces a growing number of issues, systemd waiting for timeouts during poweroff/reboot, SELinux errors or warnings, GNOME Shell logging you out, applications failing to render or refusing to work, Firefox crashing, ABRT collecting unusable crash data daily, DNF being unable to perform history undo, because packages are not found in the repos anymore. You can find failure reports from users, who haven't updated their installation for weeks, then applied 200 or more updates at once and afterwards couldn't log in anymore. And if updating to updates-testing, there are still packagers, who delete their bodhi pages, so eventually you notice that a distro-sync wants to downgrade updates that have been deleted "silently" (why? negative karma? severe breakage?). _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx