Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

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On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 17:15 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> 2016-11-15 8:43 GMT+01:00 Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 07:35 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> > > If something is in the release criteria I expect the feature to be
> > > present in the release. If the feature in question has worked for ~20
> > > Fedora releases it is not my first priority to test, unless there is
> > > specific communication otherwise, like specific "Mac install testing
> > > days" (which to my knowledge there hasn't been).
> > 
> > As a general rule of thumb, stuff that gets tested keeps working. Stuff
> > that doesn't breaks. It's why we test stuff.
> > --
> 
> For me as a user it is really difficult to know what has been tested
> and what needs more testing. The test days are really good so you know
> what to focus on.

We haven't done an 'installer Test Day' for a while because it's not a
typical fit for a Test Day. Test Days are usually for testing out some
big new feature or major change in a release which is a kind of unitary
thing. We haven't had a single specific pinpointable 'major change' in
the installer for several releases now; rather its behaviour tends to
evolve gradually with smaller changes that land frequently, and changes
to the behaviour of other components it depends upon.

What we *do* have for the installer is release validation testing. We
announce all the release validation testing events to this list, and
the OSX test is listed right there. I have sent out pleas multiple
times this cycle for people to help test all the Alpha/Beta/Final
priority validation tests.

Did these not reach you, or is the process too difficult to follow?
-- 
Adam Williamson
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