On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 23:54 +0200, Jens Lody wrote: > Am Tue, 04 Oct 2016 14:22:34 -0700 > schrieb Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > On Tue, 2016-10-04 at 22:15 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > > > On 04/10/16 22:04, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > We've pretty much pinned it down, now. The recipe is: hybrid > > > > graphics + systemd-udev update == X crash. That is, if there's a > > > > systemd-udev update in the dnf transaction, and the system has > > > > hybrid graphics, and X is running while the update runs, X will > > > > crash. If you're running the update in a VT, X will crash but the > > > > update will complete OK. If you run the update inside X, the > > > > update process will die when X crashes and your system will be > > > > left messed up. > > > > > > > > > > > > My machine at work where this happens isn't hybrid. It has three > > > monitors spread over two Nvidia cards though, driven by nouveau > > > rather than the proprietary drivers. > > > > > > OK, so probably strictly speaking this is triggered by having multiple > > adapters. 'Hybrid graphics' is by far the most common case of that > > these days, though. Thanks for the note, I'll revise my blog post > > (that I'm writing ATM). > > I did not see such crashes on my hybrid laptop with F24, X and > gnome-shell. > I mostly use the intel gpu, but some games run on the > nvidia-gpu with nouveau-driver. > I tried the "systemctl restart systemd-udev-trigger.service"-approach > from a "normal" terminal and from a terminal under nouveau and there > was not even a flashing of the monitor visible. I do not have a > secondary (or third ...) monitor connected, just the default laptop > screen. OK, that's the second report of an unaffected hybrid system (cmurf said the same thing). So basically we can say that at least several systems with multiple adapters are affected, and no-one has yet reported a system with a single adapter being affected so far as I can tell. But not *all* multiple adapter systems are affected. We don't know what the difference is yet. Still, safest thing is just to assume that if you have a multiple adapter system you may be affected. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx