Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

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Przemek Klosowski <przemek.klosowski@xxxxxxxx> writes:

> It would be nice if there was a 'container snapshot' facility that
> would convert between a native application package from Fedora or
> Debian and a portable container---possibly both ways. Obviously,
> native->container is desirable for portability; the opposite
> conversion is less obviously useful but might be a basis for a
> cross-platform packaging process in the future.

It's obviously not what you're thinking of, but there's Singularity,
under review <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1331818>.

As an example, I haven't managed to port Scilab packaging to EPEL6, but
with singularity I can run the f23 version (or the Debian one) on RHEL6:

  $ scilab -version
  Scilab version "5.5.2.1427793548"
  scilab-5.5.2

The executable is basically a Fedora 23 system image (installed with
yum, and quite large) with a configured entry point, in which you can
run other commands:

  $ singularity exec `which scilab` rpm -q basesystem
  basesystem-11-1.fc23.noarch

I'm not sure about "both ways", but you can operate on the contents as
appropriate.

> In my mind, containers are primarily useful to run arbitrary untrusted
> third party applications, but of course they need  a good enough
> sandbox system for that. I hope such system will emerge from the
> current work.

The above is a different "primarily useful" for some of us in research
computing, where we don't actually want operating system containment.
That's the job of the HPC resource manager, if anything.
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