On Tue, 2016-06-14 at 19:26 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > Does anyone in marketing or development now what the article is > referring > to and what's going on? Hi, There's an article on Ars as well. The "working with Fedora developers" claim is probably a misunderstanding on Softpedia's part; it's not true, and I doubt Canonical would have said that. What's going on is that Canonical beat us to market in development... and now their marketing folks have beat us in marketing, too. We of course have zero plans to adopt Snappy in Fedora, and in fact multiple Fedora developers are working on a competing solution, Flatpak [1] (formerly xdg-app), which is also being adopted by GNOME and Endless. Until today, Snappy was viewed as Ubuntu-specific, which is why there was so little interest in it. We have not considered, and need to discuss, whether to allow that snapcore package into Fedora proper; there's a strong argument to be made that we should accept all free software, but doing that could undercut our Flatpak effort. If popular upstreams start distributing snaps, then we'll probably have to support it, though. Challenge for the marketing folks: can we get these tech journalism sites writing about Flatpak instead? About GNOME Software's new support for displaying and installing Flatpaks in F24? Otherwise, I see upstreams adopting Snappy and not Flatpak. Background info: In the Workstation working group, we're currently planning to allow replacing RPM packages for graphical apps with Flatpaks. We're also planning to remove Fedora packages for selected apps that are offered as Flatpaks by upstream. For instance, if (hypothetical) Inkscape were to offer a Flatpak download on their web site, the Inkscape developers could request that we remove the Inkscape Fedora package and display their Flatpak in GNOME Software instead; the goal here is to reduce friction between upstream and downstream that people complain about so often, while ensuring it's still very easy to find and install software that runs reliably on Fedora. I guess we could do the same with snaps, if they become sufficiently popular, but it'd be quite unfortunate to support two competing desktop containerization solutions. Michael [1] http://flatpak.org/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
