Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

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On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 01.06.16 12:19, Howard Chu (hyc@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>
>> This is still looking at the problem back-asswards. The problem isn't that
>> screen and tmux are special cases. The problem is that some handful of
>> programs that got spawned in a GUI desktop environment are special cases,
>> not exiting when they should.
>>
>> Fix the broken programs, don't force every well-behaved program in the
>> universe to change to accommodate your broken GUI environment. This is
>> Programming 101.
>
> Again, this isn't just work-arounds around broken programs. It's a
> security thing. It's privileged code (logind, PID 1) that enforces a
> clear life-cycle on unprivileged programs.
>
> Any scheme that relies on unprivileged programs "being nice" doesn't
> fix the inherent security problem: after logout a user should not be
> able consume further runtime resources on the system, regardless if he
> does that because of a bug or on purpose.
>
> Lennart

That's what an optional, nightly, reaping cron job is for.
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