Hi, > As mentioned, this isn't just about screen, tmux, and nohup (or if > there's any other programs used in a similar context). *Any* command > run with a trailing & is commonly expected to survive logout, usually > from remote shells. No. They get SIGHUP when you logout, and the default action for SIGHUP is to exit. So if programs want survive logout for whatever reason they have to change the SIGHUP action to either a signal handler or set it to ignore. And IMO systemd should continue to allow programs to stay around that way in case lingering is enabled for the user. cheers, Gerd -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx