Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

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On Wed, 2016-06-01 at 04:43 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 06:51:20PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > 
> > So there's tmux, screen, curl, wget, and probably quite a few
> > others
> > that don't necessarily get daemonized that are probably affected.
> I would really like to see a solution whereby tmux and screen _just
> work_ without any required changes to user behavior. They're
> basically
> commands which _indicate_ "I want a new session that persists".
> 
> It seems fine to have some administrative option which prevents that,
> but I think allowing that behavior should be the default. That way,
> accidental lingering processes will be cleaned up, but people's
> expectations around tmux/screen will still be met.
Yeah - I think that making tmux/screen & co persistent makes sense
regardless how the systemd default is set on Fedora in the end.
That's really the only way to make stuff consistent for users once the
persistence on/off switch consists.

> 
> I liked the suggestion of having those programs become "scope" aware
> (https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428) but it looks like upstream
> tmux at least is not keen on it. What can we do instead?
> 
> 
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