On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Scott Schmit <i.grok@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 02:18:31PM -0600, Dan Williams wrote: >> NetworkManager is not intended only for mobile devices or notebooks, >> because that's a small part of the networking story. Plus, more than >> just notebooks have needs for the things that NetworkManager brings to >> the table. >> >> If it's useful for you, that's great. If you do not find it useful, >> that's also fine, and it can be masked. However, we have put great >> effort into NM so that even if it *is* enabled, it can coexist >> peacefully with whatever you do on the system outside of NM, and we are >> constantly improving this. >> >> We hope that NM can be installed on most systems, and will be there when >> required and useful, but will get out of the way when not required. > > What's the story for NM in router configurations? > > The last time I brought up handling DHCPv6-PD (a strong non-laptop use > case for NM if I ever saw one), I was told that router configurations > were out of scope for NM (at least, at that point in time). > > Has that changed? (Or maybe I'm misremembering some nuance...) Whether it has the options, and I didn't see them when using it yesterday, it is Not Your Friend(tm). The GUI's do not provide enough fine resolution, they display nothing of what the actual config files touched are or what they say, and the automatic writing to disk of options when selected rather than requiring a "commit" operation is anathema to a safe network configuration tool. It has no rollback features, and if you use it on a production environment, I strongly urge you to put "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/" under a git repository or similar source control so you can reverse any accidental steps. And I urge you even more strongly to ensure that you have console access, by local physical access or a remote KVM console access of some sort, before you use it, especially if you're manipulating the router used to reach your local network. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct