Solomon Peachy wrote: > So far the only tangible result is that the release date for F21 is > delayed (which is probably a good thing) It's not. As you say yourself: > A longer release cadence means we lose the 'First' goal (both in the > First-to-market and Upstream-First sense), and the main beneficiary > seems to be those who think the 'Freedom' goal only applies to > themselves, not their downstream users. so we shouldn't delay our releases for no good reason. > The main "feature" I've seen requested is an intermediate-cadence > support cycle between RHEL/clones' 5-year and Fedora's 1ish-year, but > nobody (especially not those asking for it) seems willing/able to do the > work to provide that support on the (nontrivial!) distro-level scale. Longer support must not happen at the expense of release frequency. > (I remember all too well the Fedora Legacy folks' pleading for help..) The reason Fedora Legacy failed was its unrealistic QA requirements on package updates, a disease that has since spread to Fedora as a whole. We could support our releases for much longer (WITHOUT reducing their frequency) if we just let maintainers push the security fixes without any bureaucracy. Right now, we even have trouble getting karma for the Fedora n-1 release that is still supported. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct