-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Apologies for the slightly alarmist $SUBJECT, but I want to make sure that this gets read by the appropriate groups. During today's FESCo meeting, there was the start of a discussion on how to approve new Products into the Fedora family. As part of this, it naturally strayed into discussion of what we do about Spins as they currently exist. Several ideas were raised (which I'll go through below), but we didn't feel that this was something that FESCo should answer on its own. We'd prefer community input on how to handle spins going forward. So, in no particular order (because it's difficult to say which questions are the most important): 1) Are Spins useful as they currently exist? There are many problems that have been noted in the Spins process, most notably that it is very difficult to get a Spin approved and then has no ongoing maintenance requiring it to remain functional. We've had Spins at times go through entire Fedora release cycles without ever being functional. 2) Should Spins be eliminated entirely in favor of Fedora Remixes[1]. The effect here would be that Spins are no longer an official part of The Fedora Project but are instead projects unto themselves which are permitted to consume (possibly large) portions of our tools, packages and ecosystem. Maintenance and upkeep of these spins then becomes entirely the responsibility of the downstream community that constructs them and has no mandatory draw on Fedora's marketing, ambassadors or quality assurance resources. 3) Should Spins be considered Products-in-development? In other words, should we only approve Spins that are targeted or destined for "promotion" to a fully-supported Fedora Product? This is a nuanced question, as it means different things for different Spins, for example Spins focusing on a target-audience (Security Spin, Design Suite Spin) vs. Spins focusing on a technology (LXDE Spin, MATE-Compiz Spin). 3b) If we treat Spins as Products-in-development, what do we do with those Spins that don't fit that criteria? I'm sure there are other questions that people will come up with on this thread, but this should provide a good framework for the discussion. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLpZMwACgkQeiVVYja6o6NOIwCeP6Kr6FGVYLCdU9Uofv7Xrqm1 e3oAoIEky2/IjoGBF9MqVlEbkG0jd4vv =KDoO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct