On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 06:15:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Just to wax philosophical for a minute: I think there's a lot of value > in building boring stuff that works well, and I might be weird, but I [snip eloquent defense of the virtues of boring basic distro work] > This doesn't mean I'm against doing Big Exciting New Things in general > or Fedora.next in particular, but I do want to stand up for the value of > just keeping your head down (hah, I know, Adam, practice what you > preach) and doing good, dull engineering work. With your pocket > protector firmly in place. This is all very convincing. But you also sent me a convincing message the other week about Fedora's place on the innovation curve and, basically, the difficulty of doing all that good dull work while being innovative. Stop convincing me in different directions -- my head will fall off! Or, in seriousness, because I don't think they're *necessarily* in direct conflict, what do you think we should do about all of the above? Our mission and branding, including our foundations, tend to steer away from the dull and towards new shiny. In fact, whenever we do something that could be characterized as head-down plodding forward progress instead of a bold leap, we hear *quite a bit* of sarcasm about the four foundations in the online chatter. So, should we look at reconciling that in some way? Part of *my* idea for Fedora.next was that the base circle could focus more on this careful and non-thrilling engineering work while the outer rings could do the big-exciting things at the same time. (Or even have *some* parts of the outer rings working on big-exciting, while other parts work on _even more solid_.) *goes and gets coffee. not able to quite express what I mean. hope you understand anyway* -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
