Once upon a time, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > border cases where you can use --nodeps What does --nodeps have to do with this? > this is *really* a border case where download and "rpm -Uvh --force" > is the way to go No, you should do it correctly. First, AFAIK rpm doesn't have the magic kernel behavior, so your "-U" will upgrade, not install, and you can't upgrade to the same package version (I don't think --force overrides that, but I haven't tried it myself). Second, --force should be banned from any recommended rpm usage; there is virtually never a good reason to do that (I haven't used it in many many years). > > Also, even removing every kernel RPM will not render your system > > "non-recoverable". You can always use a boot CD, and in modern Fedora > > systems, the "rescue" kernel/initramfs are never removed (not owned by > > any RPM), so you should always be able to boot that > > you can do that, i can do that > the ordianry user - i doubt The "ordinary user" won't do "yum erase kernel" either, so that's moot. The rescue kernel is another option, right there on the boot menu; if you actually removed all running kernels, it would be the _only_ Fedora option (and the only option at all on a system without multiple OSes installed, so booted by default). In any case, this is still a very minor side issue, and should not derail practical dnf discussions. -- Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct