Once upon a time, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html#dnf-erase-kernel-deletes-all-packages-called-kernel Frankly, that's a dumb "feature" to have the package manager know "magic" things about some names. Why is it dumb? Because some people then depend on magic "features". Is this "feature" even documented anywhere? I don't see it in the yum man page for example. I never knew that "yum erase kernel" wouldn't actually remove all packages named "kernel", because I would never say "erase the kernel" and expect something to not erase the kernel. It could be correct to erase all installed kernel packages, for example on a VM where booting is external to the VM. Or, maybe you want to re-install the kernel package to fix something such as a file getting deleted accidentally (which "yum reinstall" is documented to not handle). This is Unix; system programs are expected to "do what I say". Don't try to code "do what I mean" into it (because what you mean is probably different from what I mean). We've had kernel variant packages in the past, like kernel-smp and kernel-PAE; are all variants supposed to be handled magically? What if there's a new variant? Would not handling it in the package manager magic be a release-blocker bug? If you want a "dnf remove-all-but-some-magic-version kernel" option, write it in a plugin and install it on your systems. Or expect the program to do what you say; for example, if I wanted to remove all kernels except the running one, I'd do (from a saved management script, where I did want to remove all but the running kernel on a bunch of systems): yum remove $(rpm -q --qf '%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n' kernel | while read k; do [ $k = $(uname -r) ] || echo "kernel-$k"; done) Like I said, I never would have thought to just do "yum remove kernel" and expect yum to have magic undocumented behavior to save me. To make such a "show-stopper" big deal about such a minor and undocumented "feature" is just wrong. -- Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct