Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:44:37 +0000
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 08/20/2013 07:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> >Is it not better to come up with some kind of spin/mentor process
> >> >with releng/infra where each spin sub-community learns,provides
> >> >and is ultimately reasonable for creating their own spins as
> >> >opposed to releng/infra wasting valuable time/resource hosting
> >> >and trying to keep those spins spinning?
> > Possibly, but it's unclear to me if there is any "sub-commuity"
> > around some of them.
> 
> If there are no sub-community surrounding relevant spin/product it 
> arguably should be removed since the relevant spins failed to created 
> "target audience" and failed to build a community around it self.
> 
> >   Perhaps there is any they just haven't been aware that
> > they should help testing?
> >   
> 
> Not just testing but also do the necessary releng work to create the 
> spin in the first place but honestly why should sub-community bother
> if there are others that both create the spin and do the QA for them?

the releng work is honestly minimal, I used to go in and fix broken
spins, I don't any more. I think we still need to have a central
Releng. we need to make the process simplified and streamlined. we need
to enagage the different parts of the fedora eco-system to test and
sign off on the things they care about.

the script to make the spins is
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/build-livecds
each livecd is a koji task. putting it in place is minimal work. I
would like to work on a tool to mash the lives and appliances. QA is a
much bigger task.

Dennis
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