On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > latte-integrale > 4ti2-0:1.5-3.fc18.i686 isn't obsoleted > 4ti2 < 0:1.5-1 obsoleted by 4ti2-0:1.5-10.fc20.i686 > > Indeed. "latte-integrale" is the src.rpm name. It builds a "4ti2" > binary rpm with an EVR higher than the Obsoletes tag. Checking the > spec file in git: > > %package -n 4ti2 > # This can be removed once Fedora 18 reaches EOL. > Provides: 4ti2 = %{version}-%{release} > Obsoletes: 4ti2 < 1.5-1 > > And there are many more like that. We're really bad here. > I don't even understand that spec file. _Why_ does it add such > Provides (those are automatic for %name anyway) and self-Obsoletes? Once upon a time, there was a package named 4ti2. It's upstream was here: http://4ti2.de/. The last release of that package was version 1.3.2. That version was packaged for Fedora, and built from a source RPM with the 4ti2 name. In process of time, one of the 4ti2 developers joined the faculty of a new university, and became part of a project named LattE. This team needed a tool like 4ti2, but needed some new development to happen. So in process of time https://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~latte/software.php became the new upstream for both 4ti2 and LattE (in its "latte-integrale" release). Therefore, when latte-integrale was packaged for Fedora, it became necessary to retire the old 4ti2 package and make the new latte-integrale package build 4ti2. So the packager who submitted the new package (that would be me) read this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Renaming.2FReplacing_Existing_Packages. If I read it wrong, I'm very sorry. I will do penance at the Altar of Correct Obsoletes. But, other than the unnecessary Provides, I still don't see how this is wrong. The old site is no longer maintained; there will be no new releases. So even "Obsoletes: 4ti2 < 1.4-1" would have been correct. Or are you saying that even the Obsoletes tag is unnecessary since only the source RPM name changed, but not the binary RPM name? -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct