On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:08 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 07/24/2013 05:02 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: >> >> So all you can do is gather the core metrics for utility use... >> cpu/band/storage... and with those metrics in hand price what it would >> take to build and run a koji builder in the public cloud as a starting >> point and plan your initial crowdsourcing campaign > > > This is not a crowdsourcing campain ( as they are usually made up of ) this > is something we would adapt,apply and build into the community platform. You say potato... I say potatoe. I really don't care about what its fashionable to call it. crowdsourcing, microinvestments, membership dues... whatever.. i dont care. But I do find it amusingly ironic that you would dissuade me from using the word crowdsource when you picked the phrase "crowd funding" for the initial subject line. I don't consider that level of nitpicking over word choices particularly constructive, and as a result I take your interest in this less seriously than I would have otherwise if you had just let that slide in what is an evolving brainstorming session of an under-specified concept. Oh well, live and learn. > Agree that's one way of figuring out but ( share number of > servers/cpu/storage ) honestly i would have thought the infrastructure team > would already know this. How about you table this discussion as it stands right now on this list, and take the next few days and talk to the infra team about what the currently know and don't know concerning the computing resource burn rate for fedora specific tasking. And see if you can help them document resource burn rates in non-financial units in a way that doesn't require a legal review as a potential financial disclosure for Red Hat as a publicly traded company. Do everything you can to the info you need, in a way that avoids requiring any action by either legal or accounting depts inside the fenceline and everyone will be happier. Even in my own academic institution where I work... the more I can avoid interacting with legal and accounting...the more productive I am and the less time is wasted. I'm not sure the discussion really constructively go forward on the idea of "crowd funding" as you call it, until you have the discussion with infra team and build any of the missing metrics for compute resource burn. I'm expecting there is going to be some tooling required to get metrics publish in a way that makes sense for the community to digest on a regular basis as part of informed decision making ahead of a financial contribution on a periodic basis. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
