On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:50 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The infrastructure cost ( with the exception of any paid manpower ) is what > sets the baseline for host/run and that cost is what would determine the > infra/hosting tax % or at least gives a number for a minimum we would need > to aim at. You could work with the infrastructure team to generate some metrics on the amount of cpu/band/storage we use as part of package build churn, average and peak, during a release cycle... and then turn those non-financial metrics..into a financial goal based on utility price points published by aws or another utility provider. The actual costs being paid by Red Hat to do Fedora specific things are subsidized to an extent by their ongoing RHEL needs as well. Even if you had the actual dollar numbers, you couldn't really use them as a baseline, because anything you create outside of the RH infra to carry some of the Fedora task load will not operate in the discounted fashion. So all you can do is gather the core metrics for utility use... cpu/band/storage... and with those metrics in hand price what it would take to build and run a koji builder in the public cloud as a starting point and plan your initial crowdsourcing campaign around that pricing expectation based on the resource burn metrics we can measure and track. Start there. Figure out how to fund a builder that can handle a share of peak load. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel