Le Mer 24 juillet 2013 13:39, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > This is particularly a bad argument as most Linux distribution > installations do not include an MTA anymore (Ubuntu is substantially > more popular than Fedora, and not just on the desktop). There's enough > reason to believe that the what people "expect" from a Linux > distribution might be very different these days from what *you* expect > from it. Anyway what people expect is a bad argument fullstop. Microsoft, Google and Apple didn't grow their userbase by matching their users expectations. They grew their userbase by exceeding those expectations. So what if in a traditional windows 3.1 mindset smtp processing had not place on a desktop? The fact is that mail is a major part of the internet experience now, and anything that makes mail simpler on Fedora desktops will get us more marketshare not less. Just set up mail accounts at install/user creation time and configure our tools to use the local smtpd server by default. That will make it a "sending mail just works" distro-wide feature, instead of "we suck so much at mail we've disabled mail even where it was blatantly useful" misfeature. -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel