-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2013 12:36 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/22/2013 04:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:08:32 -0400 Stephen Gallagher >> <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 07/22/2013 11:58 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >>>> Our Fedora infrastructure team should be using Fedora it's >>>> an disgrace to the community for them not doing so. >> So, first off, as I think I have indicated many times: we already >> do use Fedora in places where it makes sense to. >> >> We don't exclusively use Fedora on all machines/instances, >> because it doesn't make sense to. >> >>> That's something else that this policy could potentially >>> addresses, frankly. The reason our infrastructure team doesn't >>> use Fedora is because upgrading critical infrastructure every >>> six months is simply infeasible. >> It's not only that. ;) >> >> * Having to upgrade every 6months or a year. * Having to >> redeploy/test all our applications on a new version every 6months >> or a year. * Rate of updates is very high. We would need to >> schedule lots more outages to keep up with kernel and glibc >> updates for example. * Updates can break things/less tested than >> RHEL updates (This one I think is much less the case than it used >> to be, but still there). * Probibly some more things I'm not >> thinking of now. >> >> So, really, I can see us expanding use of Fedora in some areas, >> but I don't know that we will ever get to "100% Fedora". In fact, >> depending on how you figure that it's impossible. Things like >> some of our storage or routers are not even able to run Fedora. > > Is the above not just highlighting the fact that our release cycle > is to short and instead of of our infrastructure team working > towards changing that, they chose to workaround it instead by using > another distribution... They chose to use a _downstream_ distribution. RHEL *is* Fedora, it's just a Fedora that's been hardened and held to a certain level of ABI/API compatibility. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHtYLYACgkQeiVVYja6o6NcogCfaog45ZIEc/W+NLdfezLe4/fQ 9c4AoJpq0EFgobtwVAzlNyG6gw+QU0l3 =DrD3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel